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LR: What’s been the biggest difference in the L.A. music scene since the days of Further?
Darren: I don’t really think it’s all that much different except for little things. Like back in the days of further, there weren’t a lot of places to go out and listen to music (i.e. club nights or bars), but now there is and you run into a lot of other musicians from bands all over the place. At least in the circle we know, everybody is supportive of each other and interested in what you got going on.
LR: How did The Tyde initially come about? Did you feel that your previous bands weren’t necessarily the right vehicle for your songwriting?
Darren: After further and another brief project, I really wasn’t doing much with music, just writing a couple of songs here and there. I was going to play an acoustic show with Beachwood Sparks at the old Smell, and I just happened to ask Ben to play bass and Bob Fay to play drums and that’s kind of how The Tyde started. The one rule that I wanted to stick with in The Tyde is that unlike other bands I’ve been in, I wanted to write and sing all the songs, my own ideas.
LR: It seems like The Tyde have such a great California pop feel that people living in any city could relate to. Do you think this makes you stand out among today’s pop bands?
Darren: I don’t know if it makes us stand out but it’s pretty much the number one article in our manifesto – to represent my idea of modern day California. It’s not strictly all about retro; modern living is as important.
LR: There’s quite a bit of surfing imagery that comes up in your songs. How important is surfing to the band? Who’s got the best cutback?
Darren: We are just really into it. Surfing’s rad, you meet all sorts of people, from crusty old dudes to young rippers. We live in California; the beach is the place to be. There’s also that Hawaiian spiritual aloha vibe man. Best cutback? We’re into nose riding.
LR: Do you find that the surf culture is into your music because of these themes? I usually don’t see too many of those kids wandering around at L.A. shows searching for new music.
Darren: They are definitely coming now. I’m trying to make sure that happens. These kids are so stoked on music and listen to all sorts of stuff you wouldn’t expect. They surf and party all day long so it’s hard for them to make it to the city at night cuz’ they’re burnt. But look for them; they’re there, the tan ones.
LR: Over the years what are your fondest memories playing/touring?
Darren: I’d say one particular gig at The Monarch in CamdenTown after our first album came out and it was the last show of our UK tour. It was a perfect show for me. We just got back from Japan. That was pretty awesome too.
LR: What’s next for The Tyde after Three’s Co.? Any side projects on the horizon?
Darren: We are going on a west coast tour with BJM in September, then a full US tour with the Black Angels and a European tour later this fall. Record another album after that I guess. Side project? This is the side project, forever.
LR: Awesome.
LR: Where are you guys at? It’s 10:30 in the morning over here.
Christopher: Just got my coffee so I'm ready to go. We’re in Atlanta getting ready to do a set for radio session set. It’s strange because we have been going back and forth between states and even though it’s the afternoon over here I’m not quite sure it feels like the afternoon.
LR: It’s got to feel like a whole different routine since the album has dropped, with all the buzz and touring and time changes.
Christopher: Yeah it’s been surreal, thankfully our cellphones do the time changes for us. People have really responded to it and it’s a great feeling to be at all these different places and see kids who know the songs. We’ve been just so busy anf frantic, but it's a good kind of busy, doing interviews and performances like the session we’re about to do in a few hours.
LR: That’s got to feel good after all this time waiting for the debut to hit the market.
Christopher: It does, it feels really good. We’re just excited more than anything.
LR: How has the rest of the tour been going? I heard most shows are selling out.
Christopher: Yeah, that caught us off guard. There are all these people that seem to come from nowhere supporting us and buying the album.
LR: So the album just dropped in July, how has it been selling?
Christopher: Our label is really happy with it. Apparently it has exceeded their inital expectations, that’s what they’ve been telling us. I’m not sure on the exact numbers. I do know it's doing well on the college radio charts.
LR: That’s amazing for a debut and only being out for a month. That kind of success will hopefully lead to an even busier schedule.
Christopher: Yeah, I think for the most part the record has been getting around because of the word-of-mouth thing. I mean we’re not playing huge venues but the places we are playing at are great and everyone’s showing up. Sometimes I’m thinking where do these people come from?
LR: And you guys sold-out The Troubadour which is such a legendary place, and one of the best sounding venues to play at in Los Angeles. When I hear that a band is coming into town that I want to see I’m always hoping they’re going to get booked at The Troubadour.
Christopher: Yeah that was shocking when I first heard how it sold-out and it’ll be good feeling to be back at home where we get to see all our friends and fans. And it’s the best place we could have imagined doing that show when we get home because there’s so much history there. I’m still kind of in shock about it. It’s making me homesick just thinking about that show.
LR: So after this tour you’re going on the road again with Viva Voce, is that right?
Christopher: Yeah Viva Voce, who are really good. We are big fans of their music.
LR: I know this thinking far ahead but what’s in the works after that tour?
Christopher: Not sure right now. We’re just going to see how things progress and not worry about it. Other than that it’s fun just being busy right now and with the next Viva Voce tour that we just try and focus on what’s in front of us.
LR: Any interesting or crazy fans that you’ve encountered who just love you guys so much they’re pounding their fists and totally getting into it? Kind of like that super-fan guy who would always be in front at the Spaceland residency?
Christopher: Yeah I remeber that guy. No, nothing too crazy like that. It’s been more like we get to meet people after or before a show that ask us questions about our sound or know something technical that we thought people wouldn’t necessarily care to remember. For instance there are people who notice what kind of amps back we used back at CMJ and wanted to talk about specifics like that, which blew us away that he actually remembered. There are also more people that sing lyrics during some of the songs off Pikul so they really know a bit of our history which is great.
LR: Nothing Beatle-mania style?
Christopher: Noooo. There have been a few people that definitely want to party or find out where you’re staying after a show, but we have a schedule that requires us to get up early and we’re driving ourselves around so we don’t want anything to interfere with being on time and playing a good set. We’re just trying to be mellow and really focus on the tour because the next day we’ll have to wake up early and be somewhere, ready to do an interview, or meet up with people, which can be really tiring.
LR: So before you head back to L.A. what do you guys have planned?
Christopher: We’re going to play with Dirty On Purpose.
LR: They're a good band, I missed them out here but the album is strong. They remind me of a bunch of bands I already like mashed up together.
Christopher: Yeah, then we have the F* Yeah Fest this coming weekend on Saturday which is going to be so fun. We get to play with all these great bands and catch up with everyone; it’ll be a big party with our favorite bands.
-Scott McDonald
LR: So who was it in the band that got engaged on the stage at Coachella 2004 and how’s that going?
Charles: That was him (points to John).
John: Yep, that was me it’s going really great.
LR: How has the popularity of the band changed over the past couple of albums? Do you see bigger budgets and money from the time of You Forgot it in People to the latest self-titled album?
Charles: The popularity has been pretty steady; it wasn’t a huge jump but always gradually climbing. The general reaction to You Forgot it in People was really surprising. People who liked that album generally weren’t disappointed with the latest one so it kept the momentum going, we’ve been really happy with the response.
John: It has grown a bit too. We are playing larger venues and bigger crowds are coming to see us in certain places like the UK for example. There was initially some concern because the record is a little more dense and chaotic, even frenetic in a lot of ways. So in the UK it’s made a bigger impact than You Forgot it in People did. So it feels like we could breathe a sigh of relief, like we’ve earned our stripes.
Charles: Luckily we haven’t got the “hit single” over there (laughs), which is a big relief. John: Yeah we were just talking about this earlier; the difference between albums. The popularity is a little more diverse because people are generally into the entire record instead of just one song or single.
LR: On stage it seems like you guys are so tight and comfortable with each other. Does that feeling translate off stage and into your personal lives? I know there are so many people in the band but do you guys ever just hang out to go get a drink or get together after all the touring?
John: Yeah, we’re all very close on tour. We take turns hanging out in different combinations because the band is so large, and that’s a great thing about Broken Social Scene.
Charles: Sometimes you can see that different parties aren’t gelling and it’s big enough where you can divide it up. It’s a much different dynamic than say a typical four piece band.
LR: After a while I do see a lot of bands come through L.A. and the band dynamic seems distant like they feel trapped with each other. It certainly shows on and off stage when you just have a normal conversation them.
Charles: For us it’s really enjoyable because of the size of our band and it makes it more fun.
John: It also has a lot to do with how this band was formed. Initially, a lot of bands will worry about how things are going to work out, how they’ll be perceived, agendas, and booking. When we started we weren’t even concerned about how we were going to make it out of the city, there was no agenda.
Charles: It was a very sincere beginning; there wasn’t any agenda at all when we stared playing. Things just gradually took hold quite naturally. Every band is going to have their frustrations but that’s life. It’s been a lucky ride for us so far.
LR: And I think people are drawn to that kind of chemistry where there isn’t an agenda. Take a band like Yo La Tengo; they have always come across as relaxed and sincere on and off stage, like a small family. I think most people are drawn to that.
Charles: Right, they were big heroes of mine.
John: There’s a real sense in this band that there‘s an open, fluid membership and that helps as well. We all have other projects and everyone is fond of each other’s projects, you need to have something to kind of satisfy your need for more expression. And that in turn helps you gain perspective on the band and your own music. There’s always this massive movement of creative energy within the band. At it’s peak we’re at about 20 people and it’s great.
Charles: I’ve actually met people for the first time walking onto a stage, “hey it’s nice to meet you”. LR: I think the last time you guys were in town you had the largest combination of Broken Social Scene on an L.A stage, I counted about 16 people and it just sounded huge.
John: Yeah, we’re very fortunate that we have a band that can produce so much energy and we really never stress out about it. The band just works itself out.
Charles: And with that many people it becomes easier because there’s less ego involved. You couldn’t really do it otherwise because of the numbers. There’s just no competition in the band. And there’s a validating freedom where you feel comfortable.
John: It’s also about surrendering you ego, and all of us have strong egos and opinions about how things should sound. When I was younger I use to see these bands and I grew up watching Brendan Canning at clubs. So when I started I really felt honored. I also knew I was really going to have to surrender myself and any control in order to enjoy it. I think it makes you a better player and gives you a better experience.
Charles: No one has any clinging or controlling minds. We have projects to do the clinging (laughter). It’s naturally hard to have a lot of ideas and only let a few of them out.
LR: So when you go back into the studio after a tour how does that band dynamic work? Charles: Well, we never all go into the studio at once.
John: When we did You Forgot it in People we all had our roles and a good sense of what our parts were.
LR: Have you ever tried to actually record all at once?
John: Well, we did try that once. The way we record actually has more to do with someone coming up with a sound and you just invite people in to add something to it or try something different that might work. Kevin, Brendan, and Dave were more responsible for “massaging” the last album. LR: So when exactly do you plan to go back into the studio for the next record?
Charles: We are pretty much done touring in November and then after that it’s time to record again. We have a bunch of songs and sketches but it’s tough because at the same time you don’t know what pile it’s going to end up in. You don’t really want to think about what’s going to happen. You want to just go in and play music and allow it to happen.
LR: Like you might want to save you own songs for your own project.
Charles: Right, but we’re going to have a new record at some point, I’m not sure what the hell it’s going to sound like though.
Chris: Not that we have a system, but it’s kind of a loose version of what a system is. And since that works we don’t mess with the process of recording an album. There’s no definite procedure to follow for us.
LR: Any bands as of late that have totally blown your mind or influenced you?
Charles: Akron Family have completely won my heart, I love that band.
John: Man, there’s so many to list.
LR: Blame it on the internet, especially blogs, they have completely expanded the choice and idea of what’s “good”. It almost makes impossible to keep up sometimes unless you’re in that world. There’s so much to like.
John: There is no limit, the well is never going to run dry. I think we live in a pretty good time to be in music. There’s definitely noy going to be a shortage of great bands.
LR: The internet kind of redefined the magnitude of choices and how to get your music out there.
John: Right, I mean technology is great. Charles and I can just go and record on my computer whenever, on a bus or in any hotel room and lay down ideas. I think the first example of that was in the early nineties when people were saying “fuck it, I’m going to make an album on a 4-track” like Sebadoh and Flying Saucer Attack. There’s so many ways to get your music heard.
Charles: You don’t need the same kind of marketing or promotion anymore, or even a label for that matter.
LR: Before I go is there anyone you want to say hi to?
John: Hi Lisa, I hope I see you before I get to read this, and Greg Davis.
Charles: Marco Landini
-Scott McDonald

LR: Hi, thanks for doing this interview. Have you noticed a big change in the band’s popularity since 2005’s Feels? If so, does it bring forth more pressure for the next album?
Noah: Hello. No problem and thanks very much for talking with us. I have noticed a little bit of a change. The shows we play got a little bigger and more younger people were coming and I was really psyched about that. The last couple of albums though its been a steady increase each time. We get bored or restless pretty quickly so we tend to change what were doing and how we do it a little each album or period and I feel like that upsets some people. But it seems like we get more people excited than bummed each time so I suppose that’s good. I don’t really feel any more pressure than usual but that’s to say that (and I think I can speak for all of us) I always feel pressure from us to do something we feel really good about and something were excited about. I don’t think we feel any obligation to satisfy anyone besides ourselves even though that sounds a little self-centered.
LR: The energy on stage during your live shows is very refreshing, do you ever treat the performance more like an experiment?
Noah: Thanks very much. I know what you mean (about it feeling like an experiment) and I guess I do feel a little bit of that. Every room and every place and every crowd is different and in that sense you never know how things are going to go or if you’re going to feel good or not. I feel like maybe we think more along the lines of the way a dj thinks in that were trying to work with what were given as far as the crowd goes. And at least for me all I want to do is to have a good time and make (or let) everyone there have a good time. In the simplest way I just want something positive to happen. I feel like it’s difficult to really get a large crowd of people involved and connected somehow and I think our energy is our way of trying to make that happen. I suppose were trying intensely to connect with each other in the hopes of having that translate or transmit to everyone else there.
LR: Hi, thanks for doing this interview. Have you noticed a big change in the band’s popularity since 2005’s Feels? If so, does it bring forth more pressure for the next album?
Noah: Hello. No problem and thanks very much for talking with us. I have noticed a little bit of a change. The shows we play got a little bigger and more younger people were coming and I was really psyched about that. The last couple of albums though its been a steady increase each time. We get bored or restless pretty quickly so we tend to change what were doing and how we do it a little each album or period and I feel like that upsets some people. But it seems like we get more people excited than bummed each time so I suppose that’s good. I don’t really feel any more pressure than usual but that’s to say that (and I think I can speak for all of us) I always feel pressure from us to do something we feel really good about and something were excited about. I don’t think we feel any obligation to satisfy anyone besides ourselves even though that sounds a little self-centered.
LR: The energy on stage during your live shows is very refreshing, do you ever treat the performance more like an experiment?
Noah: Thanks very much. I know what you mean (about it feeling like an experiment) and I guess I do feel a little bit of that. Every room and every place and every crowd is different and in that sense you never know how things are going to go or if you’re going to feel good or not. I feel like maybe we think more along the lines of the way a dj thinks in that were trying to work with what were given as far as the crowd goes. And at least for me all I want to do is to have a good time and make (or let) everyone there have a good time. In the simplest way I just want something positive to happen. I feel like it’s difficult to really get a large crowd of people involved and connected somehow and I think our energy is our way of trying to make that happen. I suppose were trying intensely to connect with each other in the hopes of having that translate or transmit to everyone else there.
LR: Vocally, there are so many great sounds and layers on Feels. Is there a lot of spontaneity when you record the vocal tracks in the studio?
Noah: Yes at least for the last two records the vocals were the thing that we fooled around with the most. It was almost exclusively Davey on Feels but Sung Tongs was him and me both. But yes on both there was a lot of writing on the spot or one thing would lead to the next if you know what I mean. The voice is such a malleable instrument and it’s easy to get lots of different sounds and styles with it if you try a little and I guess that’s why we end up using it so much. Plus it usually sounds cooler or fresher at least.
LR: When I talk to musicians and friends here in Los Angeles they often bring up Animal Collective as a big inspiration. Are there any current bands that you guys get blown away by? If not, what are your main influences these days?
Noah: The Daft Punk show we saw at Coachella was my favorite I've ever seen. The sound was real good even way back and I couldn’t get my head around how they could get it to sound that good. And it looked epic. I feel influenced by lots of things but I haven’t been listening to much music lately. The things I do hear are usually recommended by a friend. I like Excepter's Alternation album. I like The Strokes a lot. Jay Dee’s Donut is my favorite thing I’ve heard in a long time. It changed me for sure. Or rather it made me feel like the way I was going made sense. I think I get most influenced by people and the relationships of all kinds that I have with them particularly my close friends and family. I stay home quite a bit but whenever I go out I find something that excites me or excites my mind.
LR: It seems like there’s a lot of child-like innocence and fun that naturally comes out on your records, is this accurate?
Noah: I hope so. I don’t want to play music or to write music if it isn’t fun or positive in some way. I know we all have good time writing and playing the songs especially live these days so I hope very much that it comes across. It’s important to keep an open mind and particularly in creative endeavors I feel like it’s advantageous to feel like you don’t know anything at all.
LR: What are your plans for getting back into the studio? Do you have any particular ideas that you want to accomplish on the next album?
Noah: I don’t know that well record until January at the earliest but I know were all excited about this one. Not to put down the last couple but I think were especially proud of these songs. I don’t want to do anything like wave done before but I suppose that’s not anything new. I don’t want it to be a very guitary record and I'm pretty sure we all feel that way. I have lots of ideas but I don’t want to give them away if that’s all right just because maybe it will be sweeter if it’s more of a surprise. Plus I don’t want to give anyone a picture in their head of what it should sound like or will sound like, I'd rather they make their own when they hear it.
LR: What’s it like being a member of Animal Collective? Who has the most interesting day job in the band?
Noah: It’s good at least for me. I can’t say its easy going no problems all the time. I suppose as with anything threes always difficulties to get over. I’ve been feeling recently like I have something to prove but I don’t know why and I like that very much. Being in a band is like being married to a bunch of people at the same time and you go on vacation a lot. It’s trying at times for sure and lots of work and effort but it’s always more than worth it once it’s over. We went over our days recently and all voted Bressons (geologist) as the best. It involved lots of tea and movies. My day is filled with diapers and toys not that that’s bad.
LR: Thanks again for your time, any last shout-outs?
Noah: Thanks very much for the interview and I hope you are very well. I would like to say hey to lots of bros but I’m afraid to leave someone out or to take up too much space. But thanks for the offer. Take good care.
-Scott McDonald